Your comment reeks of arrogance. Technically. I think the part of the reg people have over looked is "the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier will assume command". I wondered about it at the time and this reminded me of it, is this more of like a courtesy thing where Warrants dont salute each other and shake hands instead? They clearly outrank privates and are often assigned to leadership roles, but they aren't yet commissioned. I the DC power device safe from accidental shock. She has also worked as a freelance designer for local musicians and events. Sergeant Major Jeremy Schlegel, from Hanover Township, Pennsylvania, joined the West Point Band in August of 2008. The supervising doctor might ask the medical student to do certain things a doctor would normally do (recommend a prescription, put in sutures, read test or x-ray results), but only with direct physician supervision. Podcast For some reason a lot of angry major S3 types fall into this category. come from many NCO's who claim that "NCO's are the backbone of the Army". Appreciate your reply. the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps In the 80s I was an instructor at the ANCOC Leadership School. I always say Semper Fi or Airborne when I return salute. Master Sergeant Brandie Lane of Columbia, South Carolina, joined the West Point Band in October of 2010. They are everywhere and plugged into everything. The Commandant's Corner is a way to provide a direct channel of information about current cadet activities, leadership topics and other updates about the United States Military Academy's Corps of Cadets. I never got gigged for not saluting another LT, so I didnt think much of it. I never saluted another LT after that as an LT. Thank you! *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal * U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. One of these ignorant academy types was my battalion XO at Fort Ord. After just two years of military service, Poe attained the rank of Sergeant Major for Artillery, the highest enlisted rank open to him. Cadets are not commissioned nor do they possess a warrant. The garrison supports a base population of over 16,500 Soldiers, Civilians, Family Members, and Contractors as well as supporting over 40,000 retirees in the area. but after I had earned my keep so to speak he spent a lot of time teaching and mentoring this Dot head and when I was commissioned he took time off from his civilian job to come to the commissioning ceremony to congratulate me. Forces Korea, the Department of Defense, or any agency of the U.S. government. (I was going through a few operations connected to wound recovery). I spent 3 years as a MSG and never saluted a cadet. And if for one second you think any Infantrymen will ever do something that violates our Constitutional form of government, you've made the worst assumption of your young life. The smart LT listens to his/her NCO and seeks counsel from him/her. Combined Forces Special Operations Component Command, n Deputy Division Chief, Enduring Sites Division Baghdad, Iraq The key to success in your career is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of your key players AKA your subordinate leaders and junior Soldiers. If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. It's hilarious when reality trumps the entitlement issues of a newly hatched fetus. If you run a command climate where you relegate your NCOs to small picture things, you will be a small picture unit and your good NCOs will find their way out of your unit and you will be left with small picture, tunnel vision type folks such as those that you describe. As far as I know there are no CTLT positions in combat zones. Working as a deputy or person number 2 is always a difficult task. You have to look at national guard and the reserves. Command Sergeant Major Fraser military and civilian education include: Basic Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, Senior Leaders Course, US Army Drill Sergeant Academy, First Sergeant Course, United States Army Sergeants Major Academy, Garrison Pre-Command Course, Battalion Pre-Command Course, Command Sergeant Major Development Program, Master Resilience Training, HR Plans and Operations Course, Sexual Harassment and Sexual Assault Course, Battle Staff Course, Postal Supervisor, Postal Operations Course, Modern Army Combative Level I and II, Total Army Instructor Course, Equal Opportunity Leader Course, and Combat Lifesaver Course. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached at, ts summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means . Cadets are never saluted. Upon completion of Basic and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma he began his military career as a Field Artillery Surveyor. Upon the successful completion of flight school cadets received their flight wings and were commissioned as second lieutenants and incured an additional four year service commitment. As a CDT, I was generally treated pretty well at my unit, this could have been because I was Mustang Officer in training and a former NCO, and that my CO was part of the cadre at Western Illinois, so she made it a point to assign me to a vacant officer position, in this case kind of a huge assignment as the Maintenance PLT LDR at a MED Truck CO, whereas most units dont even know what to do with a CDT. Interestingly, when a graduating cadet received his commission, (there were no females in the cadet corps in those days), his commission was backdated 15 months to the date he entered the cadet program, giving him a lead on promotion to first lieutenant. We always give you a chance before we let you sink your career all on your own. Required fields are marked *. As the DGC, he manages Garrison staff operations in support of the United States Military Academy mission. I let crap roll off of my back, but when I attended Fort Knox this last summer there were way too many NCOs who had a big chip on their shoulder. West Point welcomed Command Sargent Major Michael J. Coffey as the 21st U.S. Military Academy senior enlisted leader during an assumption of responsibility ceremony Monday, August 17, 2020. He previously served in the 282nd Army Band at Fort Jackson as head light designer and percussionist, performing in the Jazz Combo, Rock Band, and Concert Band. The cadet does not outrank a senior NCO E7 or above. Seriously get over yourselves West Point you produce officers like any other university and they are no better or worse than anyone else. Cadets are still learning and everyone in the unit should help mentor them and show the value of NCOs. Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! But Im sure he felt stung just a little bit. We want to mold a new Officer to become a great leader we can always remember but there's a limit to what we're willing to do. Corporal: Sergeant: Platoon Sergeant: Color sergeant: left sleeve only: First Sergeant: Regimental and Battalion Sergeant Major: Brigade Command Sergeant Major: Lieutenant: Color Lieutenant: Company Commander: Battalion Adjutant: Battalion . In flight school cadets qualified for flight pay in addition to their regular pay. Boy if it wasn't entertainment at its best. Per the order, they are not entitled to a salute. I wondered how he, as a senior NCO in a highly specialized unit, felt about having cadets around. Staff Sergeant Megan Cardone joined the West Point Band in March of 2011. A lot of people have been killed in combat because of the arrogance of westpointers. The Air Force Aviation Cadet program was fazed out during the mid 1960's as the Air Force Academy became the primary source of flight rated officers. Technically. Simple professionalism is another, Respect the service, respect the service member. Even if that enlisted man is the Sgt Maj of the Army. ROTC cadets do too. Very nice endorsements. Hey brother. I see that USMA had a proud communist recently graduate, he might as well spit in my face and all other better warriors than myself before me. That is why cadets dont go to parade rest while talking to NCOs. Directorate of Public Works, n Director, RDT&E Division Port Hueneme, CA The one group that actually gave us respect and tried to help and mentor us were the senior NCOs. Both have an option for Cadets to be apart of a simultaneous membership program. Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. He earned his Bachelor of Music in trumpet performance and music education from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. Thanks for subscribing! You see there is a important reason that the strap be properly secured to the six foot ground rod driven into the ground. I think that it would be a huge step in the right direction for the ROTC BNs to send their CDTs to their gaining units with an LOI/MOU pinned to their chest (Im sure ROTC has probably published guidance along those lines, but Ive never seen it) so that those commanders will have some idea what to do with those CDTs when they get there. Elite only in their mind. And taken that way. I respect ALL Personnel of the US ARMED FORCES and Civilians appointed over me. Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? Throughout his career as both an Airman and Civilian, he has served in numerous assignments at locations: n Chief, Public Works Fort Eustis, VA Shiver me timbers he pooped on the deck. Both preflight and flight school were run under the traditional cadet model of upperclass and lowerclass where upperclassmen were responsible for much of the military training and discipline of the lowerclassmen. That just goes to show that the regular cadets get crapped on and they can't change it. West Point outlines quarantine, isolation guidelines in playbook April 1, 2020. Master Sergeant Lane's professional affiliations include membership with the Audio Engineering Society and voting membership with The Recording Academy (Producers and Engineers Wing). His awards and decorations include the Legion of Merit (1OLC) Bronze Star Medal, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (3 OLC), Army Commendation Medal (4 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (2 OLC), Meritorious Unit Commendation, Good Conduct Medal (8th Award), National Defense Service Medal (2nd Award), Iraqi Campaign Medal, Afghan Campaign Medal with Campaign Star, Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon with numeral 5, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon, Parachutist Badge, Air Assault Badge, and Drill Sergeant Badge. I think not. The U.S. Military Academy at West Point's mission is "to educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets so that each graduate is a commissioned leader of character committed to the values of Duty, Honor, Country and prepared for a career of professional excellence and service to the Nation as an officer in the United States Army." Eight cadet-athletes were selected to leadership positions and will assume their duties Aug. 10. the leadership essentially passed off their job.. but i ythink it is good these future officers learn from those entrusted to prepare the sustenance.. instead of those that havent actually been in thr kitchen for a couple years. Yes I have seen a misguided ROTC cadet DEMAND a salute from an E-9 once. A (knight) officer is a commissioned officer and formally addressed as "SIR!" I learned something that day. CSM Craven has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Colorado Technical University and a Master of Science in Management from Excelsior College. Jesus.. No Salute should be required or rendered. Cadet Physical Program requirements still remain a priority April 1, 2020. So let me get this straight a probably well connect cadet who memorize info given to them as well as staying nice and tidy, as yet to graduate or earn a degree yet some how thinks that they are officers. Garrison Command Sergeant Major :: West Point U.S. Army Garrison West Point America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Command Sgt. For lack of official guidance I was assigned as an assistant platoon leader in an Armored Cavalry Company and my platoon sergeant was a former Navy Seal with combat tours in Vietnam (along with other unmentionable places during that conflict). I pray that you are only a LT yourself. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! Command Sergeant Major: CSM Scott Drewes: The West Point Band (also known as the U.S. Military Academy Band or USMA Band) is the U.S. Army's oldest active band and the oldest unit at the United States Military Academy, traces its roots to the American Revolutionary War. My CWO put him in his place and ask what would this cadet' commanding officer would think of his conduct and told him to leave. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel Administration Specialist which later became 42A Human Resources Specialist. By Command Sgt. Unprofessional. In July 2001, after graduation from high school, Perez entered the United States Military Academy at West Point. I mean, that certainly seemed to be the case at Airborne School back in the day. Command Sergeant Major Fraser awards and decorations include: Meritorious Service Medal (1 SOLC, 1OLC), Army Commendation Medal (2 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (1 SOLC, 4 OLC), Presidential Unit Citation, Joint Meritorious Unit, Army Superior Unit, Army Good Conduct Medal (Numeral 6) Defense Service Medal, Kosovo Campaign Ribbon, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon (Numeral 5), Armed Forces Service Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbons (Numeral 3), NATO Medal, Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, Drivers Badge, German Schuetzenschnur Marksmanship Award (Silver), a recipient of the Honorable Order of Saint Barbara, the Noble Patron of Honor, the Martyrdom of Saint Maurice, the COL Robert L. Manning Achievement Medal, and the Order of Horatio Gates Bronze Medal. Holds the MOH, four Silver Stars, ten combat ribbons, CIB, is airborne qualified and ex special forces. She has served as Operations NCOIC since 2017. Thus, I suspect a warrant officer's wife is addressed a "wifady" (wife/lady.) I asked if he gave the cadets in his unit a hard time as part of their CTLT experience. The Army isnt some pay your dues ol boys club anymore. He previously served as the NCOIC of supply at the U.S. Army School of Music. A the this leader our soldiers says to me that I did not ground the equipment right. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. The views expressed are those of the authors, and do not reflect the official position of the United States Military Academy, Department of the Army, or Department of Defense. 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